1. LezCronut's Avatar
    Hi errybody! Can the smartphone be charged while we are Daydreaming with View?
    10-16-2016 09:18 AM
  2. Solomon Davis's Avatar
    No it cannot.
    10-16-2016 11:32 AM
  3. LezCronut's Avatar
    Wait, why not? It looks like it can. The phone's merely sandwiched with the sides visible.
    Any source that confirms this?
    Thanks.
    10-17-2016 11:06 AM
  4. krisguy's Avatar
    I would agree with Lez that you should be able to charge it, but every demo I have seen video on does not show it because they want to showcase the portability.
    10-17-2016 12:11 PM
  5. Breuklen's Avatar
    My question would be: why would you want to? It would be cumbersome and probably disrupt the experience. Not to mention tripping and tangling risks.
    10-17-2016 01:59 PM
  6. Russell Holly's Avatar
    You can absolutely charge while Daydreaming, but there's a good chance you'll run into heat problems as well as potential cable tangle issues.
    10-17-2016 04:49 PM
  7. Cale Hunt's Avatar
    While watching movies in Gear VR I've charged my Note 5. Haven't noticed any heat problems, but I guess it depends on conditions.
    10-17-2016 04:58 PM
  8. Breuklen's Avatar
    I forgot to mention heat issues earlier. Probably the key reason why I wouldn't recommend charging while daydreaming.
    10-18-2016 01:29 AM
  9. pioann's Avatar
    I guess you should be able to charge it while daydreaming. But personally, I wouldn't do it. It's still a lithium battery, and even though we have reports about exploding batteries with the note7 mainly, it doesn't mean it couldn't happen with other phones. You really don't want to be the unlucky one.
    10-20-2016 07:16 PM
  10. mmidgley's Avatar
    So if the phone is not charged (while reading this thread i imagined a portable battery mounted to the back of my head, so battery explosions could be on both sides of my head) how long can one daydream? say, with a Pixel XL?
    10-21-2016 01:25 PM
  11. pioann's Avatar
    So if the phone is not charged (while reading this thread i imagined a portable battery mounted to the back of my head, so battery explosions could be on both sides of my head) how long can one daydream? say, with a Pixel XL?
    well, if both your phone and battery bank exploded and your head was in between, then I guess you'd be daydreaming for quite some time ^^ seriously though, while I haven't tried it, I'm gonna guess you won't be watching a whole movie with a single charge. There are way too many subsystems functioning all the time and draining your battery. I don't know if google did something with the Pixel to consume as little as possible while in VR.
    10-21-2016 07:18 PM
  12. Breuklen's Avatar
    So if the phone is not charged (while reading this thread i imagined a portable battery mounted to the back of my head, so battery explosions could be on both sides of my head) how long can one daydream? say, with a Pixel XL?
    I'm just laughing imagining someone with a battery pack strapped to their head.
    10-22-2016 12:07 AM
  13. rahool360's Avatar
    Isnt it dangerous to charge phone while on use??
    10-22-2016 12:44 AM
  14. mahmunk1's Avatar
    Isnt it dangerous to charge phone while on use??
    With standard core - it's not ideal...
    10-22-2016 01:39 AM
  15. Murali14's Avatar
    Not as of now.
    10-22-2016 02:14 AM
  16. James Metcalfe's Avatar
    Does using a phone in VR use much battery or is it just similar to watching a movie on it?
    10-22-2016 02:31 AM
  17. pioann's Avatar
    Does using a phone in VR use much battery or is it just similar to watching a movie on it?
    in VR a movie will use much more battery. There are many other factors at play than just a video overlay while in VR.
    10-22-2016 03:09 PM
  18. Breuklen's Avatar
    Isnt it dangerous to charge phone while on use??
    If the user doesn't pay attention, and depending on surroundings, yes.
    google com likes this.
    10-23-2016 12:05 AM
  19. James Metcalfe's Avatar
    There are many other factors at play than just a video overlay while in VR.
    makes sense, can you tell me what these other factors might be?
    10-23-2016 05:15 AM
  20. Derek McAdon's Avatar
    Why would you need to charge your phone while using it for VR? It's supposed to have screen on time of 8+ hours, even while rendering for VR I'm sure you will still get 2-3 hours at a time, probably more if you're just watching a movie on Netflix or something.
    10-23-2016 10:42 AM
  21. dpham00's Avatar
    Why would you need to charge your phone while using it for VR? It's supposed to have screen on time of 8+ hours, even while rendering for VR I'm sure you will still get 2-3 hours at a time, probably more if you're just watching a movie on Netflix or something.
    From what I am reading most people water getting 5-6 hours of SOT with regular usage with the XL
    10-23-2016 10:58 AM
  22. pioann's Avatar
    makes sense, can you tell me what these other factors might be?
    Sure. While watching a movie on your phone/tablet and the video is full screen (it usually is) the video is rendered using the graphics chip frame buffer directly so that no cpu based memory copies are used. Something like that won't really happen because in VR you're rendering the movie on a GL texture in a 3D scene where every polygon is being computed for each frame (60 per second if your device can handle it). That alone should consume much more than normally.
    Also many different sensors are constantly providing data, like the gyroscope. This drains the battery a lot (although as far as I know there are dedicated chips that can handle such tasks without bothering the cpu much on some devices). Same applies to the accelerometer, compass etc. Surely there are other things to consider specifically in VR, but these are the main ones I can think of at the moment.
    10-23-2016 11:16 AM
  23. pioann's Avatar
    argh, what are these $$ symbols in my post?? even after re-editing the post, they're still there!

    FIXED: apparently the forum doesn't like "typos". The "afaikafaikafaik&$quot$; $word$ $was$ $the$ $cause$.
    10-23-2016 11:18 AM
  24. Joshua Richards1's Avatar
    Weird. I would have thought the pixel xl would have taken into account heating with daydream. This is a it of a let down.
    10-23-2016 02:18 PM
  25. russell1997's Avatar
    When doc brown charged his phone while watching vr that's when he invented the Flux capacitor. He just threw Marty off the trail with the other story so Marty wouldn't steal his idea!
    10-23-2016 05:52 PM
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